What do you feel the Barony does well? :
Master Seamus Donn :
Carolingia has a number of activities that are strongly supported. You
just have to look amongst the guilds and groups at events to see what
is drawing the most number of people.
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What do you feel the Barony needs to improve upon, and, as Baron, what steps would you take toward that improvement? :
Master Seamus Donn :
A decline or an absence of participation in an area can be due to
either a lack of interest, or a lack of support. If there is a genuine
lack of interest, then it is best to let it fade away in grace. If
there is a lack of support, this is where the role of Baron can be
fruitful. It seems kind of odd to promise to do what everyone else
isn't doing, but I do see that as a role of the titular head: to bring
the focus of attention to areas that would benefit from it.
Carolingia has a lot of guilds and groups. There are also a lot of
regions. As above, some have a strong following, others do not.
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From time to time, people have felt that Carolingia had an image problem outside our borders. Do you think Carolingia currently has an image problem outside the barony? If so, do you have any particular ideas how you might remedy that? If not, what do you think is the Baron/ess' most important role, if any, in inter-baronial relations? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Using that as a yard stick the goal I might set is to drive that merchant out of business! (or at least into different merchandise) Not by direct pressure but by creating a public
image that no longer demands those sorts of goods.
In Ireland to keep on good relations with our Celtic neighbours we had wars, cattle raids, territorial disputes and even stole one of the Scottish Shire's islands at one point. I
said in answer to another question "to embrace the Current Middle Ages is to embrace (good natured) conflict". The geography and people here are a bit different. What
might suit the tone better would be a series of arranged marriages, hostage exchanges, and/or fosterings. Perhaps just dramatic trappings, but the echoing of period methods
of reaching out does foster a more open atmosphere that the administrative side of the game can use to do their side of the work.
From time to time? When asked at Pennsic where I am from, I answer proudly- I'm from Carolingia. This is generally met with a pitying look, or laugh and a
declaration of "I'm sorry." There is a merchant who sells bumper stickers "We don't CARE how they do it in Carolingia." Our DANCERS have their own light bulb joke. Yes,
we have an image problem. What to do about it? Not an easy solution. We are an old joke. I think I would try to be myself, and behave in manner that reflects well on our
barony, and projects approachability and a sense of humor. I would like to have a presence at events nearby, to help mitigate inaccurate stereotypes.
Master Seamus Donn :
I have seen bumper stickers commercially on sale reading "We don't care how they do it in Carolingia". Given the cost, quantity and solvency of the merchant
there is clearly a market for such thing. I think we might class this as "having a problem outsisde the barony".
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If you could change three things about Carolingia (or Carolingians as a whole) what would they be? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Sorry - gonna dodge this one.
Master Seamus Donn :
I would like Carolingia to be a place where other groups were not inspired to buy bumper stickers proclaiming their disdain of us.
I would like Carolingia to be a place where all those who used to play, but don't play anymore, would like to play in again.
I would like a Carolinga that, when I told other people I lived there, that inspired them to so "I wish I lived there too" rather than "I'm so sorry".
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For a long time in Carolingia, there was a very strong ethic of "everybody works, everybody pays". In the last 5 or so years, that has shifted, and it has become more socially acceptable for autocrats and head-cooks to decide to "comp" volunteers (e.g. feed the kitchen staff without requiring them to pay on-board). Do you have an opinion about this practice? Do you think it good, bad, in between, neither, both? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Autocrating, organizing the administration and running of events, and setting price points are all things that fall on the administrative side of the fence. I would offer the above
as an example of how things can be done rather than an expression of how I think they should do things.
I think it has always been the practice that anyone who worked in the kitchen got fed, period. It was encouraged that people pay the for the feast, but
acknowledged that feast tokens weren't really checked in the kitchens. It think it is only recently that the practice has really been examined or formalized. We do have the
luxury that our feast numbers are fully set in advance, and are fully subscribed. If we had trouble selling all of the seats at a feast this might be different.
Master Seamus Donn :
The practice I have used for the events I have run (with mostly Student help) was one of "each according to their needs". The event was budgeted so that we
would break even if none of the staff payed. None of the staff were required to pay, but it was made clear that donations were gladly accepted. Those who could afford it paid,
those who couldn't, did not. Which you were was left to be a personal decision, and who paid what was never recorded or discussed. Additionally, as per common Irish
practice, there was usually a student/unwaged event fee in addition to the normal one.
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As Baron/ess, you would become a bestower of awards. What do you feel about the SCA Award System, especially as it exists here in the East and in Carolingia? Do you have any criticisms of it, and if so how will that be reflected in how you deal with giving awards? Do you prefer to "err early" or "err late" in giving awards? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Bear with me for a short digression. In Drachenwald the most argued over law was the requirements for entry into Crown Tourney. The main issue was that Americans
would come to Europe with the military, enter Crown Tourney, and win. There was a long period with no native monarchs which a major point of friction. Contrary to my
normal leanings, I was actualy against making the entrance requirements stricter (mainly in terms of length of residency). Firstly it is better to use repeated "foreign"
monarchs as an incentive to improve your fighting standard than to lower the bar by excluding people. Secondly, the American Military are inarguably part of Drachenwald.
And to create a rule specifically that excludes them (they are normally there for 3 year rotations, and strict residency rules would prevent any of them from entering) is not
fair.
So, in Carolingia we have the Boroughs. Borough folk are often here, do great service, and often leave before any gaining any award. Only to have to start over from the
bottom where they go. To see these people move on without recognition has caused me no end of consternation. I would dearly like to see this changed.
Let us be clear about one thing: awards do not cost money and they make people happy. True, to give them out casually would be inappropriate and "devalue" them, however
I still feel this is a very strong arugment in favour for "err early".
Sadly, the most appropriate award is the AoA which is determined at Kingdom level. The Baron only has influence, not control, of this. An alternative might be to establish a
"Foreign Office" that tracks where people have gone, and ensures that "letters of reccomendation" get passed on to appropriate people in their new home. I'm already trying
to do this for those gentles I have personally known. As Baron I might seek other's help.
Awards given late can feel like a pittance given to quiet the disconent, an award given early can inspire people to strive to be worthy of the honor they have
been given. An AoA given for work that deserves higher recognition devalues the award as much as any award given early.
Master Seamus Donn :
The SCA award system is an imperfect system. But I cannot think of a system that isn't similarly flawed. So my commitment is to work within the system
rather than to change it. I've even gone so far as to form a household with this as its charter (see below).
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In AS28, the Board of Directors passed a rule requiring membership for attending all SCA events. It was later repealled. How do you feel about this kind of "pay to play" rule? What do you feel membership in the SCA, Inc should be required for, if anything? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
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Master Seamus Donn :
As a participating member of the SCA I have strong opinions on this. If you ask me when I am not a candidate for Baron, or, if successful, when I am not wearing
the Baronial coronet, I will happily discuss it at length with you. But I also firmly believe that the Baron's role is strictly with the Medieval side of the society and not the
administrative side. The most successful way to work with your officers is by keeping a strict demarcation between these two sides. So, in my view, this is very much on the
administrative side of the fence, and it is inappropriate for me to comment on it.
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In your opinion, what is best thing about the Society? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
The ideals that we aspire to.
Master Seamus Donn :
I first joined the society because it seemed an interesting way to learn about history. There wasn't a group where I was so I started one. I have since found
many other interesting things in the society. I have learned much about myself, society and the world in general through comparison to historical events and processes. The
SCA presents a very personal way to learn such things. Not just what was done but how it was done.
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What do you personally think constitutes "politics"? Are all "politics" evil? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Evil? No? Ubiquitous, certainly. "Politics" enter every arena of human interaction, and can be a focus for dicourse.
Master Seamus Donn :
Wherever there are two or more opinions, there are politics. It is inevitable. Politics can be evil, like many things. But given its prevelence to the human
experience, I don't think you can say all politics are evil. People will always have different opinions. It is only through discussing them that things can be achieved without
problems. If that's politics, so be it.
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Favorite "Magic Moment"? (More than one if you can't choose. :) :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
The very first war I ever fought in (Pennsic XX) I fought under the command of the lady who had given us endless hours of help on-line and on-phone and got my Shire
fighting. I died at her feet.
Watching, against all hope or expectation, Seosamh Ui Maille from Carolingia come second in Eastern Crown Tourney.
During the Pennsic "Eastern court that didn't happen part one of three" the hall began singing rounds to pass tge time waiting for the roaylaty. It was
amazing.
Master Seamus Donn :
Pennsic 22. A cohort from Ireland (Etienne) and I were working like slaves running the Drachenwald Embassy (with help from several spies from Carolingia
too!) and the first ever Shopping War Point. I had rushed from one camp (East Kindom Royal, where I slept) to another camp (Clan Kilkenny, where I ate) and was rushing
back to the barn to open the Embassy. The day before Etienne had bribed the Pennsic Paper into printing The Shopping War Point as their lead article. As I crossed the
blanket sellers there was one woman who had, very clearly, just bought the paper and was reading the lead article. I heard her exclaim as I passed (not to me, I was behind
her) "At last! Something I can participate in!" The thought that I had been able to do something to bring the war experience to a previously disenfranchised group of people
really made my war.
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What is the kindest thing you have ever seen in the Society? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
I have seen many acts of generosity in the Society, from inviting strangers to dine at falling leaves, to loans of clothing for new people, and at Pennsic.
I see so many acts of kindness at every event that it is hard to single out one. People tend to pass on small kindnesses
Master Seamus Donn :
A couple, with long held ambitions to the throne (and no small chance of winning), offered to withdraw from an Eastern Crown List because it was much easier
to run a list for 12 people than 13 people.
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What will you keep the same? :
Master Seamus Donn :
The things that have most impressed my about the current Baron and
Baroness are their dedication to the people, and their activity in
supporting the various guilds and groups. In particular the small
unofficial awards given, such as the Baron's ring, enable immediate
acknowledgement and encouragement of all acts of service, arts &
science, and martial activities.
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What will you do differently? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
I don't know. There is always room for improvment and change, but I
cannot point to any one thing or situation and say "I want to change
that, or fix this."
Master Seamus Donn :
I have no criticism of how the current Baron and Baroness fulfill
their job. Their strengths are not the same as my strengths. To do my
best I would build on my strengths. From my background as founding
Seneschal of Lough Devnaree (Ireland) I have a great affinity for new
people and students, so I would probably drift towards supporting the
Boroughs and recruitment. I personally love heraldry and pomp on the
battlefield, and would love to see a resurgence of the Pike Company. I
have a weakness for Shakespeare, and would like to see a more
involved, theater-in-the-round like approach to court. But, in the
end, the Baron and Baroness are responsible for meeting the needs of
the people. Where they direct, I will lead.
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How much do you think the baron/ess should be involved in the running of the barony? just the "medieval bits" or other stuff as well? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
My understanding is that the Baronetcy was designed to "run" or lead
the medieval (or in persona) portion of the barony. That cannot be
done in ignorance of the business side, and as a member of the barony,
I take an interest in the business of the Barony. There seems to be a
clear division between circlet and state, if you will forgive the
phrase.
Master Seamus Donn :
My Knight, Duke Sir Elffin O'Mona has reigned as Prince of Locac three
times and as King of Drachenwald four times. He has kept sane through
this process by keeping a firm distinction between duties of the
throne and duties of the officers. I follow his opinion on this. If it
has something to do with the "medieval bits" of the society, awards
and such, that is the purview of the nobility. If it has something to
do with the "administrative side", branch status, event organization,
etc, then it is firmly up to the officers. As a voting member of
council the Baron and Baroness do have a say in the business side, but
in that context their views are no more important than, say, the
Chiurgeon.
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What type of structure do you envision to support our general marshal activities? Seeing as I personally am involved in Archery, Throw Weapons, Heavy List and Fencing, I would appreciate if you could give all of us a view of the "big picture". As Baron/Baroness, what would you try to put in place to encourage the growth of each of these activities? Or do you envision a single structure that could support all of them at the same time? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux and Master Seamus Donn :
As Baron and Baroness we would not have Carolingia
undefended in any field. List
field, fencing list, archery range, bardic competition, ... it does not
matter. We can have people there to defend our
honor no matter what form the challenge takes. In the words of our current
Baron: "Losing is not an option!"
And I would further say that in none of these fields where Carolingia is
expected to defend itself should the Baron
and/or Baroness be absent. Already between the two of us we cover many
fields. But not all of them. If one of us
needs to, for example, don fencing armour, become authorized, to stand
with our Captains on whatever battle field we
find ourselves on, so be it. That is part of our duty.
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Aquel and Johanna have started getting into having an entourage (for court, processionals) which is quite different from how Patri and Barbara did things. Do you think you would want to "do entourage" in some fashion? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Oh yes- entourage can be fun, and is a great informal way to recognise activities and individuals. I think it could be really interesting, for example to have
the Hurley players as an honor guard for an event, especially an out-barony event. ...Could do wonders for our image...
Master Seamus Donn :
I am very much in favour of doing things with a dramatic flair. Processionals are nice, but having a lot of people stand up around you in court just makes more
people tired. I like the appointment of many retainers. As with awards, it doesn't cost anything, and makes people happy. But I would seek to expand their role from more
than just court decoration to active involvement. There are plenty of opportunites for quests, tasks and missions of social importance to be conducted as part of an ongoing
drama from event to event. Encouraging this sort of action gives groups a chance to mix, people to act and develop in persona, and to draw the Barony much closer together.
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What part of being Baron/ess do you expect to be, for you, the most distasteful part(s) of the job? What tactics have you thought of to deal with them? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
But I have been very good so far at, for example, keeping my work day to a strict 8 hours. A hard job in my industry! I think I should be successful at balancing my hobby time,
although with a bit more flexability. There are many great things to do in this wonderful hobby, but the best people in it are those who don't practice it to the exclusion of all
else. I think this is good to practice in the population at large. If I am seen as being successful at doing it as Baron, I would serve as an example to others.
I have thought carefully about the parts I think would be fun, and the parts that might be work. It has been brought to my attention that being Bartoness,
while a ceremonial position, is also a seat of power, and people wioll seek out people percieved to be in power to USE for thier own ends. I will have to be vigilant in
condiering motives of people who I do not aleady know well, and wiegh any request I get with care and diligent thought.
Master Seamus Donn :
Resisting the urge to spend all my free time at it! I enjoy the hobbies I participate in. Many of them to the extent that if I did not watch myself I would spend far
too much time on them. But in the same way that you one must also balance one's work-home life, I feel one must balance the aspects of your home life. Although the
temptation would be to spend all my free time playing Baron, I cannot let it preclude my friends, other hobbies, and that all important personal time.
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What do you expect to have to give up to accept this position? How will your participation in other Baronial activities change? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
My criteria for participation will change from what I want to do to what the Barony needs me to do. I'm more likely to go to a wider range of activities, than just the few that
compose my primary interests.
I will be increasing my involvement in Baronial activities. I suspect I will be taking up one of the martial arts in order to help defend our Barony, and
represent us at Pennsic. I had been considering increasing my involment anyhow, but I suspect some of my other hobbies are going to take a time hit- or I will get better at
organizing my time. Perhaps I will have to start using my beeswax notebook year round.
Master Seamus Donn :
I do not expect to have to give up anything. As above, under distasteful aspects, I think that everyone from King to Peasant should be able to play the SCA and
still have a life. So it isn't so much that I would expect to give up anything, but rather ramp up my participation to the maximum my personal schedule allows to do it and still
have a life.
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Do you see anything preventing you from holding the post at least 4 years? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
I feel uncomfortable making gusrantees about what will happen in the future. I can make a commitment of three years, and don't see myself serving for much
more than five.
Master Seamus Donn :
Three years would be my minimum. Five years would be my maximum. I wouldn't have accepted if I wasn't prepared to commit for at least three years. I think
doing it more than five years would deny the chance of service for other worthy gentles.
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What responsibilities do you feel the Baron/ess has to whom? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
The concept of Fealty is very important to me. It drives how most of things operate in the SCA. Featly is not just blind service of a retainer to a lord. It goes both ways. In
the same way service is due, when asked, from the retainer to the lord, support is due from the lord to the retainer.
You can deconstruct the example of the "naked newbie" above along these lines. In return for service, I take on the responsibility for clothing the retainer and integrating
them into the rest of the Barony.
It is such contract of fealty that bind the Baron and Baroness to the people. (And to the King as well.) I cannot expect them to fight on my behalf unless I am willing to take
the field with them. I cannot expect them to help me when I need it unless I am willing to help them when they need it. As a retainer swearing fealty to a lord I usually have
one particular phrase in my oath "To serve as I am served". Living by my own rules I would feel it my responsibiliy, as Baron, to serve the people to the greatest extent
possible to fulfill my half of the fealty oath, and inspire their service in return.
he Baronetcy has a twofold duty- fealty to the crown of the East, and fealty to the Barony of Carolingia and its people. The Baronetcy's duty, first and
foremost is to the Barony. In leading and representing the Barony, they do their best service to the crown.
Master Seamus Donn :
The responsibilities of the Baron and Baroness are wide and varied. Most of them are covered in other questions. But the umbrella statement has to do with
fealty. The Baron is in fealty with the King, and the Baron is in fealty with the Barony. This structualizes most of the responsibilities.
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Many of you, over the length of your SCA careers, have not been shy about sharing your opinions in public. If elected, would you change your participation in public discussions, including (but not limited to) e-mail lists and Great Council meetings? If so, how? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
I think I will be as forthcoming in my opinions, but
I may take some care where and when I express them. I would want to
take care that my personal opinions not be given the weight of the
coronet.
Master Seamus Donn :
The opinion of Seamus-the-Guy is very different from the
opinion of Seamus-the-Baron. For example, if Seamus-the-Guy was
critical of some officer's conduct of their office, there would be
nothing holding him back from expressing it. But since I beleive in
a frim division between the Medieval side and the Administrative
side, it would be inappropriate for Seamus-the-Baron to comment on
it. Additionally, people will tend to take anything said by
Seamus-the-Baron with greater weight than your average person. Thus
Seamus-the-Baron has to be a lot more careful in what he says!
In person I would adopt the convention of my Knight while on the
throne. When the coronet is in place, you are speaking as the Baron
with the full weight of that position. (Coronet on: "I'm afraid the
Baronial presence must depart for a short time." When removed, you
are not. (Coronet off: "I have to go to the toilet!") For
non-face-to-face discussion (e.g. the mailing list) I would probably
use one of my alternate personas (Miley O'Malley, for a
not-very-serious example) to express opinions to make it clear that
these are the opinions of me as an individual rather than me as the
Baron.
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Why do you think you'll be good? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
I think I can meet the requirements and challenges of the job with
patience, and good humor. I think these qaulities will help me set an
example of leadership within the Barony, and representing the Barony
well when outside it.
Master Seamus Donn :
I try very hard to live up to expectations. I am running because
someone had the confidence in me to nominate me. Being elected is,
perhaps, one of the greatest signs of confidence the Barony could
show. I can think of no greater incentive to be as good at the job as
humanly possible!
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Do you think you will be able to be in tune with all the different aspects of the barony? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
In tune? I wouldn't know, I am not a musician. I am interested and
happy to listen to and talk with anyone. I realize we have a large
barony- a cosmopolitan one with a number of communities and groups
within it. There is a lot going on and through all the shuffle it can
sometimes be quite hard to be heard, or to know you have been heard. I
think I can keep an open ear and a open eyes, and try to be aware of
the barony as a whole, as a close knit group of communities and as
individuals.
Master Seamus Donn :
One can try. My intention would be to pursue the position with as much
openness as possible. I didn't get a Pelican for saying no! The
older, more established activities within the Barony are generally
self-supportive, and probably less in need of weekly support. So my
desire would be to concentrate on the areas where we are growing (or
declining!), yet keeping an open ear to all.
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Do you belong to a household, formal or informal? Are you in fealty, or have fiefs of your own? Do you anticipate your household or feudal relationships changing if you become Baron/ess, and if so how? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
As for households, primarily I am a member of my Knight's household, and the head of my own household. As Baron I would still be a friend to my Knight's household, but
Carolingia would have to come first. As for my own household, it is likely that I would still take on proteges and retainers, but I would probably appoint someone else as
"head" if I were to be Baron. I have recently started a third household, which a charter that has to do with improving the fairness with which awards are given out. But that is
only just starting up, and I am just in an advisory role in that.
I belong to a formal household, alas now defunct. I have no fealty conflicts.
Master Seamus Donn :
There are three aspects to my fealty: my landed fealty, the fealty of my sword, and the fealty of my service. As a subject, my landed fealty goes to the Baron and
Baroness of Carolingia. It is their land I live in, and that is the land to which I am due my support. The fealty of my sword, as a squire, goes to my Knight. When he needs me
to support him, my sword will be at his side. The fealty of my service, as a Pelican, has flipped between the monarchs of the East and Drachenwald. By default I swear fealty
to the Crown of the East. But when personal friends have secured the throne of Drachenwald, or they have requested specific service during Pennsic, I have given my fealty
to them. Yes, there is potential for conflict. But because the potential is low enough, I have not worried overmuch about what would happen in such a theoretical case.
As Baron, the case would be rather different. My landed fealty must go to the crown of the East, and the fealty of my sword and service to the people of Carolingia. With
tears in my eyes I would ask my Knight to release me from service, but he is an honourable man and I have no doubt he would do so, or agree that if continued to wear a red
belt in his honor, that he would never call upon me to act against my commitment to Carolingia.
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What part(s) of history interests you most (right now)? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
I am interested in French history. I have a new cookbook on Spanish cuisine, and a book I haven't started yet on Medieval pilgrimage in England.
Master Seamus Donn :
13th century Ireland, late 16th century Ireland, and my household is slowly dragging me into Norse stuff. :-)
[Also 2nd millenium BC Babylon and Assyria, but that's a bit outside the SCA timeperiod!]
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What do you think your duties of a Baron/Baroness are to the boroughs and how would you fulfill them? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
The Baronetcy has a duty to the buroughs,as it does to every other
part of the barony, guilds, cantons, and households. It is important
for the barony to be aware of the concerns of the borough folk, and
for them to feel as though they are being heard, and are a valuable
part of the Barony. It can be challenging because of the turnover-
just as you are beginning to really know a person, and see them grow
into a role, they are off again- to enrich another barony, shire or
kingdom with what they have learned here.
Master Seamus Donn :
The Boroughs are a vital part of Carolingia. They breathe new life and
enthusiasm into the Barony and that, alone, makes them worthy of
cultivation. For both the Boroughs and elsewhere the Baron and
Baroness can be a positive role in many ways. I will pick two. As
titular figureheads, the Baron and Baroness give an opportunity for
pomp and and circumstance to make this historical society more
interesting. The Baronial coronet is not an award, it is a role. The
success in which it is played is measured by how much the general
quality of SCA life is enhanced by it. I would like to invigorate
court and the other rituals surrounding the Baron and Baroness by
adding drama, a bit of a storyline, and activity. Hopefully, the role
can be played such that it touches on all aspects of Carolingia and
draws them together. The boroughs, in particular, represent both
faction and unity; elements essential to drama. I look forward to
including them in whatever unfolds. The second duty I would raise is
that the Baron and Baroness are responsible for acknowledgement and
recognition. There are Kingdom level awards and processes for them as
there are Baronial level awards and orders to poll for them. Much good
work is done by the boroughs and much has been overlooked. The
processes and procedures for these official awards can be too slow,
cumbersome or have too high a standard to be really successful for
borough folk, it is the responsibility of the Baron and Baroness to
step in. A ring from the Baron's finger, a position in court, or
public acknowledgements are free and easy to do. It is also something
I feel strongly about, and promise attention to.
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Do you feel the Baron/Baroness has any particular duties to newcomers? If so, what? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
The Baron and Baroness are the representation of the Barony. If they
are openly welcoming, then others will follow. I was particularly
honored, at one event I attended as the provost of Southebanke, when
the current baroness requested I introduce her to all of the new
people I had brought with me to the event. Our current Baron and
Baronness have been exemplary in their attitudes and example set in
the welcoming of new people, and also in recognition of the role and
character of the buroughs. They have set a high standard in making
everyone feel welcome, and embracing newcomers, whether they enter
through the buroughs, move from another kingdom, are brought by
friends, or find us at a demo. The first Mayday they verbally
recognised the graduating seniors who were moving on, moved me to
tears.
Master Seamus Donn :
I believe that the biggest duty of the Baron and Baroness iis to
newcomers. For all the reasons already described, newcomers are vital
to the Society. To encourage and retain newcomers, we have to make The
Society vital to them. It must be a welcoming and encouraging
environment. Although we do, indeed, have an official "welcome wagon",
a touch of the personal from the titular head can be an essential part
of the welcome. As with the boroughfolk, if the "heads of state" are
approachable, the whole Barony is seen as approachable.If the Baron
and Baroness have gone out of their way to be introduced to each new
person, then those new people will feel much more comfortable about
approaching them later.
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How have you interacted with the boroughs in the past year? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
I haven't interacted with the buroughs much in the last couple of
years. I am still in contact with the Medieval recreation group at BU
(Southbanke).
Master Seamus Donn :
It would be hard for me to track what I've done in the last calendar
year. Off and on I've tried to be helpful to the Ivory Keep, as my
time and their need allowed. I've been a subscriber to the Southbanke
mailing list since I moved there. Mostly I'd have to say that I've
listened. Where opportunity has presented itself I've tried to take
the time to hear things from their perspective. Sometimes I've
presented examples from my own experience running a (mostly) college
group, but without trying to tell them how they should do
things. Every experience is unique. I've heard a number of things. I
have talked to borough folk who have been discontent with being
ignored, being undervalued, or being constantly hit on by middle-aged
men. I have tried to address what problems have been presented in what
ways I've been able to in individual circumstances and in how I
conduct myself as an example. Are these common issues? Are they just a
minority of vocal malcontents? In my role of Baron it would become my
duty to understand such things. If nothing else, I would like to be a
person that anyone can bring problems to, that aren't necessarily
fulfilled by an appropriate officer. I take the concept of fealty very
seriously. It is not just about retainers serving a liege, but also a
liege serving their retainers.
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If you saw a someone you took to be new at their third event wearing t-shirt & jeans (for the third time), what would you do if anything? Would what you do change if you were Baron/ess? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
As Baron, if already introduced, I would approach them. If not I would find someone to introduce me. I would greet them, find out who they were, what their interests were.
Proclaim that I need someone with just that set of interests to fulfill a position in court (cupbearer, treasury guard, messenger, spy, or whatever depending on their
willingness and interests). I'd inform them, however, that court requires appropriate garb, but that all is well because I have just the person to sort them out. Then together
seek out whoever is in charge of gold key and leave them in their hands. Later I would seek out someone who sews and direct them in their direction.
That is a tough call. If I see that now, my instinct is to chat with them and offer to introduce them to gold key- or invite them to a garb making or research
workshop. Everyone has their area of expertise or interest, not everyone's is garb.
Master Seamus Donn :
On my own, if I did not already know them, I would discretely find whoever is in charge of Gold Key, and point the gentle out to them. If I did know them I would
drag them back to my tent/car/bag and put them in extra garb of my own.
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Do you feel the Barony is ready for a Baronial TW Champion now? If not, how would you judge when we have reached that point? :
Master Seamus Donn :
Champions are one of those wonderful things that don't cost anything
and don't require any rules, yet can be a tremendous show of support
and respect for their given group. I'm keen on having champions in any
activity people are passionate about and would benefit from
competition. As far as Thrown Weapons in particular, having someone
with an axe or spear on my flank while in procession would certainly
accentuate the Baronial presence!
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What can you provide to the Baronial Fencing community? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Encouragement, support, and inspiration, umm... what he
said.
Master Seamus Donn :
In short: someone to fight for. In the same way a fighter takes
a token from the gentle who holds their
heart strings to inspire them on the field, the Baron and Baroness should
be an inspiration to all those who take the
field on behalf of Carolingia. I would hope that we conduct ourselves in
such a manner as to be worthy of that respect
and drive our fencers, and all martial activities, on to greater honor!
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What can the Baronial Fencing community provide for you? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
The fencing community enriches the Barony in many ways. I
was here in the days of the Carolingian
Rapier Conmpany, and their inspiration did spur me to pick up a foil, and
participate in mundane fencing at my
college. They provide unique inspiration, and an additonal venue for
chivalric combat.
Master Seamus Donn :
Again, in short: guards! Our Kingdom does not always have
peaceful relations with its neighboring
kingdoms. Our Barony does not always have peaceful relations with its
neighboring groups. Indeed if a dramatic
storyline develops the Baron may not always have peaceful relations with
the Baroness!
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As the fencing community grows and matures in the Barony, what role to you see it playing? :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Everything has to grow into its own space. I would like it
to continue to keep its place among the
martial activities of this barony.
Master Seamus Donn :
What is most important, of course, is the interest and
enjoyment that the participants take away from the
sport. But the question you have asked is how it works with the greater
community. As above, all combat activities
provide of point of group focus. They are a unifying thing that makes us
Easterners, Carolingians, or whatever level of
group we are fighting on behalf of. This is an important community
building point.
Fencing is also a great recruitment activity. Like heavy fighting it is
visually interesting and a big draw at demos.
Unlike heavy fighting, it also has a widely practiced modern counterpart
which provides a point to connect and relate
to people at a demo.
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